Recently I overheard two people talking. I didn’t catch the
beginning of the conversation but they were very evidently discussing how the
Calvinist/Reformed view of God’s sovereignty (in sovereignly and decisively
electing only some to salvation) was wrong and unbiblical. Being one who didn’t
agree with their assessment I curiously listened to what their arguments were,
especially since one of them was a pastor whom I knew.
In their conversation they made it clear that they believed
God “sovereignly” chose to give man free will to choose salvation. That He “knew
what I would choose” and He then apparently just helped things along. One of
them made the statement, “I’ve made the choices I’ve made” and that anything
that happened was the result of their own choosing. My pastor-friend then proceeded
to compare the scope of atonement to a mathematical equation and election to
physics – as if they could be explained using x+y=z.
I was shocked. Can we
reduce God to a mathematical equation?
More that that, can we, SHOULD we, trust a God who has no real
control over our lives? If we truly have free will than our choices are not
really under God’s control… so when bad things happen it’s simply the result of
someone else's free will and God just stood by rather helplessly? Or, maybe God
allowed it simply because we chose it? Does God “will” things based on our
choice, or based on His infinite wisdom? What about Proverbs 16:33 that says, “The lot is cast into the lap, but its every
decision is from the Lord.”
And then there’s Isaiah who records God saying,
"For My thoughts
are not your thoughts, nor are your ways My ways," says the Lord.
"For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than
your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.” (Isaiah 55:8-9)
The Transcendence of
God
“Transcendence” is defined as “Very excellent; superior or
supreme in excellence; surpassing others” (Webster’s 1828 dictionary). God is
infinitely bigger than our ability to understand. He cannot be explained by
human logic or explanation. Psalm 113:4-6 says this about God:
The Lord is high above
all nations, His glory above the heavens. Who is like the Lord our God,
Who dwells on high, Who humbles Himself to behold the things that are in
the heavens and in the earth?
This last phrase is what we mean when we speak of God’s
“condescension”. God came down to our level. He “stooped” to our plane of
understanding and comprehension. There’s a theological term that we use when
God refers to Himself it human terms it’s an anthropomorphism. Just because God describes Himself as a man with
human feelings, emotions etc. does not mean that’s how we should take Him. He
is not a god after our image. He is not
like us.
In seeking to understand God, we cannot be reduced to human
reasoning. We must have a proper fear of God – that is, a proper awe, respect
and humility. One definition Ed Welch gives of the fear of the Lord is that “it
goes further than an intellectual understanding.” (Addictions,
p. 175) We must see God as bigger and higher than what we can put into our
minds and we must look at Scripture and accept it as so even when we do not
understand it.
Is Christ fully man or fully God? Yes. Is God just or is He
merciful? Yes. Are the Scriptures written by God or man? Yes. Is God completely
sovereign or does He give man free will? Yes. The Scriptures are full of mystery, paradoxes abound, but we must seek
to say yes to Scripture and not silence any of it! I love how John Piper
put it in his book Does God Desire All to
Be Saved?: “The Scriptures lead us again and again to affirm that God’s
will is sometimes spoken of as an expression of His moral standards for human
behavior and sometimes as an expression of His sovereign control even over acts
that are contrary to that standard.” (p. 35) R.C. Sproul writes, “…divine
sovereignty is not an issue peculiar to Calvinism, or even to Christianity.
Without sovereignty God cannot be God. If we reject divine sovereignty than we
must embrace atheism. This is the problem we all face. We must hold tightly to
God’s sovereignty. Yet we must do it in such a way so as not to violate human
freedom.”
To go back to the conversation I overheard, I will mention at
this point that not once during this conversation did I hear these two friends
quote or even allude to Scripture.
Their arguments were based entirely on their own reason and logic. This also
amazed me. When you start off basing
your theological arguments on human logic rather than Scripture, you are on
shallow ground. Now, they probably could have brought Scripture to the
table if questioned, although their answers, I suspect, would probably
contradict their belief system that they just tried to build. Why? Because God
just does not make sense! His ways cannot be explained using human logic.
At the time I didn’t say anything to either of these people,
partly from shock, but mostly I thought it wise to hold my tongue since I
probably would have been a little more irritated than loving in my response.
But I was rather dying to ask them a few questions…. If what you say is true,
than why should I trust Him? Why on earth should I pray? Why should I ask God
to guide me? If He just looks through time and sees my choices why do I need
Him? Should I just take the gift of salvation and move through life on my own?
I doubt they would agree with this, so, Why not? If God is not in control over
my life why should put my dependence on Him?
But God CAN be trusted, because He is in control; because He
makes promises and acts to fulfill them, and no human will can stand in His
way. Isn’t that what gives us confidence? That no matter what He has a plan,
and He is going to fulfill it for our good and His glory. And this is why He
deserves our worship!
I just want to state in closing that I have many dear
friends who reject the Reformed view of God’s sovereignty. I love them dearly
and seek to not allow this differing viewpoint to sour our fellowship in the
Lord. But I DO think it’s worth arguing about sometimes – especially when it
comes down to how we view God. God’s character (don’t you think?) is worth
defending. As I quoted above, John Piper wrote an excellent book called Does God Desire All to Be Saved? The
answer is yes, but it’s not a simple yes. He goes on to explain and show that
just because God “desires” something doesn’t mean He acts to bring it about.
It’s the age-old question of “does God have two wills?” If you want to be versed in this debate you need to read this book!
Its arguments are important for you to understand and be able to defend/refute.
Hint: Read all the footnotes too! I welcome your comments – just please make
sure you know what you’re talking about first! I don’t respond to disrespectful,
or uneducated (notice I did NOT say unintelligent!) arguments. Although
Spurgeon might not agree… but I’m glad he said it and not me. :-)
“The doctrines of
original sin, election, effectual calling, final perseverance, and all those
great truths which are called Calvinism – though Calvin was not the author of
them, but simply an able writer and preacher upon the subject – are, I believe,
the essential doctrines of the Gospel that is in Jesus Christ. Now, I do not
ask you whether you believe all this – it is possible you may not; but I
believe you will before you enter heaven. I am persuaded that as God may have
washed your hearts, he will wash your brains before you enter heaven.” -- C.H.
Spurgeon
Can we reduce God to a mathematical equation? A very interesting question.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I would rephrase it to: Can we simplify attributes of God to single initials
and use them in mathematical equations and inequality?. I say yes. I say with certainty God is greater than me. Period. What I just said can be translated as G > M (when G=God and M=me).
The real question in my opinion is not if we should use the simplified form of what the Bible says about God, but what the Bible says about God. For a wrong statement has a wrong equation to go with it since the equation is equal to the statement. Statement: One plus three equals five. Equation:1+3=5. The equation is wrong because
the statement is wrong!
On the transcendence of God you said "God is infinitely bigger than our ability to understand. He cannot be explained by human logic or explaination.".
Fist of all and if Google serves me correctly 'equation' comes from the Latin aequare which means 'to make equal' not to 'explain'.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't what you said the same as:
G=I+U? When G=God, I=infinity and U=human Understanding. Now this is where it gets good. If the statement is true AND the statement is translated properly
to an equation, then the equation IS true. To sum up what my opinion is on this subject(a+b+c=d;), Theological equations are just
simplified statements. They can be taken too far, but can also be an effective tool. As I have recently/thankfully been informed that in classical debates
you don't throw the whole book out there so to speak. And so even though I disagree with you on the Calvinism/sovereignty debate I have confined myself to
the title of your blog post "Reducing God to a mathematical equation". Daniel P.S. I apologize for any poor grammar, for which I have no excuse
I'll just say that I never actually said we couldn't use equations to talk about God - although I still wouldn't quite agree with your G=I+U... equations can be helpful sure, but they can't explain God. Of course I would agree that the main issue is what the Bible teaches about God (I think I made that clear in this post), but the point I was making was that people (like the man in this post) can limit God by reducing Him to human reasoning. Thanks for your comments Daniel.
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